Are your students struggling to apply grammar concepts in their writing?

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Teaching Grammar Doesn't Work

One of my best writers, a student with stories to tell and an ear for parallel structure, emotionally relevant details, and surprise endings, sat next to me one day at a table in my room as he worked on revising an essay I would later publish in the reThink ELA Social Justice Writing Project. As we talked about his history with writing, he told me he never thought writing was something he could do because he forgets to capitalize, can’t spell very well, and doesn’t know how to use a semicolon. 

Yet I know his previous teachers taught grammar extensively through programs such as Shurley Grammar, our school’s textbooks, and tons of worksheets.

And he’s not alone. Every year, I (and teachers across the country) have students show up in class who write without obvious punctuation, sentence construction, or capitalization skills. Some of them can’t remember what a noun or verb is. Many of them are over it. They don’t care.

How did this happen?

Research shows that traditional grammar drills make student writing worse...

One landmark study conducted by Findlay McQuade, “Examining a Grammar Course: The Rationale and the Result” published in the October 1980 issue of English Journal, indicates teaching grammar can be detrimental to student writing. McQuade taught an Editorial Skills class and then gave an end-of-instruction essay exam to his students. His findings were illuminating.

“The essays in the second set, on the other hand, are miserable. Their principle method of organization is a series of afterthoughts, and their sentences are awkwardly and I believe self-consciously constructed to honor correctness above all other virtues, including sense.”

Even worse, students subjected to these techniques often don’t care any more. They think that because they can’t internalize grammar concepts, they are bad writers and have nothing to say in writing. They are done trying to learn how to improve their writing.

Engage students in Grammar Conversations!

Limit instruction to focused mini lessons

Each unit is focused on a specific grammar tool for students to apply to their writing. We include the tool and questions to start conversations.

Start with student writing

Students immediately apply grammar concepts to writing they have produced, to writing their peers have created, and to mentor texts you provide. They see grammar as writers, instead of just students.

Vertically align grammar instruction from 6-12 grades

We've chosen specific lessons for each year based on common standards so students can build their toolbox in a logical progression..

Work with a community of teachers

You can't do this alone. We're building a community of English teachers who want to change grammar instruction so students are engaged and learning how to use the grammar tools we know and love.

Why should you listen to us?

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About Us

Jennifer Williams, M.S. is a 14-year veteran high school English teacher with 7-years experience teaching Pre-AP/AP. She holds a Master’s degree in Teaching, Learning, and Leadership (with an emphasis in Curriculum) and a graduate teaching certificate.

Michelle Waters

Michelle Waters is the president and founder of reThink ELA, LLC. She is a high school English teacher with 8 years experience, and a former award-winning newspaper reporter. She has also published articles and short stories in peer reviewed journals and online magazines. 

What does Grammar Conversations Include?

Fewer concepts each year

When you teach all the grammar concepts every year, students remember none of them. Focus on a just a few each year and let students practice in their own texts and that of their peers!

Application in student writing

Ditch the worksheets and textbooks! Present a concept and guide students as they apply it in their own writing, help peers apply it in their writing, and discuss it’s usage in mentor texts.

Done for you slideshow

Each concept is presented via simple slides you can download to your computer and display on an interactive whiteboard, upload to a student online learning system, or print for handouts.

Printable concept posters

Sometimes students just need a quick reminder as they’re editing their work. Hang these posters in your room for a quick visual reminder.

Updates throughout the year

Unlike textbooks or worksheets, we incorporate ideas we discover in our classes and from teachers like you.

Built-in online community

We are working to build a community of teachers striving to change how grammar is taught in school. Join us!

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FAQ

Most frequent questions and answers

Grammar Conversations is built on the idea of students applying their rules in their own writing. We provide you with the mini-lessons, posters, conversation starters, and your students provide the raw material — their own writing. You all then work together to apply the grammar concept during the editing process.

If you need your students to generate writing in your class, consider providing them with daily quickwrites.

The grammar rules (tools) that we provide in each unit are based on the Common Core State Standards and the Oklahoma Academic Standards (since that is where we are located). We have provided simple explanations for each concept and several examples of its usage. 

Naturally, your students will differentiate their own writing. If you find that some of your students struggle to produce any writing, you might consider partnering or grouping them with students who do write and they can assist in peer editing using the concepts. I recommend partnering students who struggle with these concepts with students who are patient with them.

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